tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post2165303577126334273..comments2024-01-15T01:53:00.775-05:00Comments on The Uncommon Corps: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-17847327828854000382013-01-10T08:34:32.803-05:002013-01-10T08:34:32.803-05:00thanks -- I love his idea of taking a claim in a n...thanks -- I love his idea of taking a claim in a narrative and following it back to its roots and sources -- I have a piece coming out in SLJ this week or next or exactly that; I do think juxtaposition can be a good way to start young people on that journey -- why does Zinn say X and Wineburg in his critique say Y -- lets go to the sources...<br /><br />Marina and I are writing a book on three photographers who invented war photography during the Spanish Civil War. The SCW is a real challenge, but a fascinating challenge, to write about for YA since for most adults in the school world it was a great battle of left good against right evil. But more and more of the scholarship is about how Communism and Fascism were twins -- thus you are both informing young people about a heroic stand against Hitler, and about how that stand was supported by Hitler's bloody peer, Stalin. The main narrative and the historiographical debate about that narrative intertwine. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14032364072326167382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-64581561317583214772013-01-10T07:59:24.759-05:002013-01-10T07:59:24.759-05:00I think Wineburg's point about the problem wit...I think Wineburg's point about the problem with comparing the two books makes good sense to me. I found this interesting interview with him (http://histsociety.blogspot.com/2012/10/teaching-history-to-undergrads.html) in which he describes what he is doing with freshman undergrads and the Zinn book. Monica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-40753563748304391902013-01-10T07:13:38.619-05:002013-01-10T07:13:38.619-05:00Sam sent me a link to that article; while I can im...Sam sent me a link to that article; while I can imagine the passion Zinn brought to teachers as a first alternative to the textbooks they had at hand (as I say above), that does not make Zinn accurate, or useful, as an ongoing resource -- except as one to examine and critique. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14032364072326167382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-44786693776740692122013-01-10T07:09:24.651-05:002013-01-10T07:09:24.651-05:00Although pairing two contentious voices may not be...Although pairing two contentious voices may not be the ultimate answer to understanding the process of historical thinking, it's an interesting place to start. How many of our students understand the "case-building" aspect of history? Myra Zarnowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08384106059616982063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-1241649645812855112013-01-10T04:47:59.992-05:002013-01-10T04:47:59.992-05:00Here's a response to the Weinberg article: htt...Here's a response to the Weinberg article: http://hnn.us/articles/when-assessing-zinn-listen-voices-teachers-and-studentsMonica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7894641286672863815.post-87727765255831360712013-01-10T04:41:45.252-05:002013-01-10T04:41:45.252-05:00Re your suggestion for teachers to "pair Zinn...Re your suggestion for teachers to "pair Zinn and an anti-Zinn book." Weinberg does not share your enthusiasm for this approach. His response in the article to Jonathan Zimmerman's suggestion to "pair A People's History with one of its conservative counterparts and teach both" is to "...shudder at the implications of Zimmerman's recipe for intellectual alchemy. Pitting two monolithic narratives, each strident, immodest, and unyielding in its position, against one another turns into a European soccer match where fans set fire to the stands and taunt the opposition with scurrilous epithets. Instead of encouraging us to think, such a history teaches us how to jeer." (page 33)Monica Edingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03924540264341924291noreply@blogger.com